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Many Popes?

Jesus said:
                    “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi’, for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.  And do not call anyone on earth ‘father’, for you have one Father, and He is in heaven.  Nor are you to be called ‘teacher’, for you have one Teacher, the Christ.  The greatest among you will be your servant.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.”   Matthew 23: 8-12
                    So the Roman Catholic “church” has a Pope and according to their theology the Pope is The Vicar of Christ.  They believe that the Pope is actually Christ on earth and that all should follow him.  To them the Pope is more than just Christ’s representative.  They actually say that the Pope basically is Christ in the here and now.  That is totally dead wrong in oh so many ways…make that in all ways!  Overall Francis seems to be a more down to earth Pope and I appreciate his focus on helping the poor and the oppressed, but quite frankly no “man” should ever be exalted and revered like he is.
                    However, the modern traditional “church” is not much better…because the vast majority of “churches” out there have Pastors who basically operate as little Popes.  They may stop just short of actually saying that Pastors are Christ, but they most definitely state that Pastors are Christ’s main representative in their “churches”.  Even when “churches” have boards, elders and deacons…the buck usually starts and stops with the Pastor.  I say that no “man” should have such power and authority in the “church”.  I have heard many Pastors say that they are God’s man and God’s mouthpiece to their “church”.  How incredibly wrong and sad is that?
                    Jesus basically says in this passage that no man should have the title or authority of a rabbi, Pastor, master, father, or teacher.  According to Jesus it is always wrong to use these titles of power and position, but congregations all over still insist on having Pastors, Rabbis, Fathers and Teachers.  Jesus said that we should not have these positions in our churches because we are all simply equal sibling peers in Christ.  There is no real chain of command in a true church except Jesus is King and all the rest of us are mere brothers and sisters.
                    The only thing any of us should strive to be called is a servant.  Laying down every title we should seek to merely serve others as Jesus did.  We are all called to lay down our lives for the sake of others.  Titles and positions destroy true unity and interrupt the Spirit’s flow to all who find themselves subordinate to “man” made hierarchies within the church.  We should all be free to directly hear God for ourselves and not through any other person with a position or title.  Popes, Pastors, Teachers are all the same…they all think they are serving, but all they really are doing is placing themselves as a roadblock between God and all others who desperately need to hear Christ’s voice for themselves.  There is to be NO human mediator between God and His children.  This is my plea to all of those out there who find themselves with a title or position within the “church”….Please get out of the way?  You want to help?  Then simply step down and aside and start being the sibling and peer you were always called to be.  Humble yourselves?
                    Love and …..
Kirk Out !

The Show Must NOT Go On!


Jesus said:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.”  Matthew 23: 15

Jesus did not hesitate to call out and denounce the religious leaders of his time.  Because instead of being beneficial servants and guides they had actually become stumbling blocks to whoever sought to follow the faith they represented. Rather than helping others find and walk in the ways of God they ended up hindering those who followed after them.

Can we really say that most leadership in the modern “church” today is much different?  Are we really making disciples after Christ today?  It seems to me that most folks are being taught to follow a religious system instead of Jesus today.  The Laws of the false “church” system are…go to “church”, pay your tithe, and follow the Pastor.  None of which are true and necessary components of serving and following Jesus and His ways.

The western “church” in particular is in a sad state and its Leaders are not satisfied with the damage they have inflicted here.  No, they even send missionaries to inflict american greed and other damage to the natives of foreign countries.  I have been to Peru and witnessed first hand how “Christian” american’s have tried to bring western churchianity to the masses.  Just like McDonalds they seek to multiply their business and create franchises in other lands.  They preach something other than Jesus and attempt to build on a foundation other than Christ alone.  I have had friends go to Africa and see how sincere native “pastors” are turned into greedy traveling fund raisers instead of remaining true to the real call of God on their lives.  The American brand of Christianity is a poison to all who swallow their weak and watered down gospel.

Whenever money becomes a NEED of a church everything else gets tainted.  Everything!  When you come to the point of “needing” to pay a Pastor, build a building, or heat, cool and maintain an edifice..true ministry and servanthood are quickly thrown to the side in most cases.  True disciple making doesn’t have to cost a dime, it costs only your time and devotion to Christ and those who are seeking Him.

Wisdom cries out….Return to Jesus…your first love!  Throw off all the things that hinder and distract you from hearing His voice.  It is not about the Pastor, the buildings, the programs and the offerings.  It is simply about Christ and Him crucified.  It is time to follow Jesus and expose the hellish “church” system for what it is……When Jesus called the religious Leaders “hypocrites”…He was saying that they were ACTORS and not sincere about their call.  In the “church” today we lift up the actors because we want to be entertained.  Those who act best become Leaders and Pastors because they can appear to give a grand sermon, but is what they are acting out what we really need to hear and see?  I will say it one more time and then I am done…… Forget the actors and the show, and return to Jesus your first love!

Love and ….

Kirk Out !

P.s.  Please don’t get me wrong or misunderstand me?  I know there are sincere followers of Christ still in the religious system of Babylon. There are even some sincere pastors and leaders.  However the entire system is stacked against them and they will never be able to bear the true fruit there, that they could if they were totally free from religious bondage.  I pray everyday for the captives to be set free and I sincerely love my sisters and brothers still in that invisible prison.





Christ Gave Us Everything


“His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness.  Through these He has given us His very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.”                  2 Peter 1: 3-4

In Christ we are made totally complete and we lack nothing we need for life and godliness.  His divine power equips us to face life head on and grow in grace and knowledge during the process.  Knowing Jesus is all we really need in this life.  He builds on this knowledge and makes us whole, complete and mature.  This knowing is not just a simple head knowledge; it is intimate and deep.  It is to know Him as in touching and experiencing Him in all His fullness and glory.  His sheep literally hear His voice and obey.

Everything we need is found in Him.  We do not need a Pastor or anyone else to lead or teach us.  Christ Himself via the Holy Spirit will disciple and train us to become whatever He desires us to be.  Sure it is great when brothers or sisters come alongside us to encourage us in our walk and faith, but only He is our source and fulfillment.  Having healthy peer relationships is awesome, but make sure that no person ever takes a place over us; because that position is for Christ and Christ alone.

If Christ is our only Head and Leader…. He will reveal to us and in us the totality of His great and precious promises and by these promises we are able to participate in the Divine nature.  How awesome is that?  Christ in us…The Hope of Glory! Surrender to His Leading and pursue Him in His fullness and all things shall be revealed for and in us.  Being in Christ is all we ever need. However, even in Him sometimes I struggle, but when I stumble He always picks me up.  Today and always I shall seek His Face and no other.

Love and…..

Kirk Out !

p.s.  So watch out and beware of people who say that we NEED them or their teaching or anything else other than Christ alone in this life. You don’t need to buy anyone’s books, tapes, or videos.  If Jesus is your Head and you are connected to the pure and simple Body of Christ that is more than enough for life and godliness until HE returns and leads us into Glory.





A Big Question


The following is a comment from my long ago BLOG “More Regulations By The Book”  In it Dan G asks some valid questions which I will try to address in this post.  I post this here again today because my view of the bible has been brought into severe question once again.  Seems that some folks just cannot grasp, understand or accept it when I suggest that we all need to be Spirit led rather than bible led and they also tend to reject any explanation offered to them.

Dan G wrote:

“Chris – perhaps you can tell us of your experiences with Bible and what causes you to bring this issue front/center as often as you do? I am not able to relate to what you speak, because I value the Bible, but I read that you value the Bible also. Somewhere, there is a disconnect in my understanding of your writings. Maybe if you explain specific experiences a bit, if you can, we can begin to relate / commune with you on this.”

Alright Dan I will give this a shot.  The issue to me is why do we elevate the bible to a place that is equal to or higher than The Holy Spirit in our lives.  To me it is quite clear that we receive primary revelation from The Spirit and secondary revelation from the bible.  After all it was The Spirit who inspired the writers of the bible to write what they did in the first place.  It seems to me that many Christians get it backwards in practice where they use the bible to try and interpret and set the ground rules for The Spirit, when they should be using The Holy Spirit to interpret the bible and lead them in their everyday lives.  Because there are some things in life that the bible just doesn’t address or give us guidance about.

Way back when I was in college I was also a concert promoter.  After a big concert (REZ Band) I drove the artists back to their motel.  On the way back home I had to stop by the late night drive thru at Burger King to get some food for me and 5 other students who had helped me set up and tear down the sound and lights equipment for the concert.  So I was going to order 6 whopper meals when I heard Jesus or The Spirit tell me to order 7 meals.  It felt right and harmless so I ordered 7 meals.  When I got the food back to my roadies dorm room I distributed the meals to the 6 of us and I left the 7th meal in a bag up on a loft.  In the midst of eating and fellowshipping Tim stuck his head in the door and asked where his whopper meal was.  I immediately pointed to the sack on the loft and told him his whopper meal was right up there.  I also told him that God had specifically told me to buy that meal for him.  About a half an hour later we were able to lead Tim to Jesus all because I was told to buy that extra meal.  I am still in contact with Tim to this day.  He remains strong in The Lord and often gives his testimony about how God used an extra whopper meal to save him on that day.

The bible had no way of communicating to me the need for an extra meal, but The Holy Spirit was fully capable of leading me in such a manner.  It is just like in Acts chapter 9 where The Lord tells Ananias to go to a street called straight and find Saul (soon to be Paul) and heal his vision.  Ananias could have read scripture from cover to cover and still not be moved to act in such a manner.  It takes more than biblical knowledge to be guided in the best ways of surrendering to and serving HIM and others.

The simple fact is that the bible is just not enough to lead us in our everyday Christian walk.  Jesus Himself said that He was sending us The Holy Spirit to guide us into all Truth.  The bible was never meant to be our guide.  That is The Spirit’s role.  Always has been and always will be.  Jesus also said that “His sheep hear His voice and obey”.  Note He NEVER said that we read His book and obey.

We NEED to hear directly from HIM my friends!  The Spirit is our guide and often times He leads us to the bible for reference and understanding.  But it is HE who sits on the throne and not a book about Him.  Who sits on the throne of your heart?  If we are really gut level honest about this most of the time it is WE that sit there, even as professing Christ followers.  But we need to surrender that place DAILY to Him and The Spirit.  The book should never be in the position of preeminence in our lives. The bible is a great gift and tool when used as led by The Spirit, but without The Spirit’s illumination it is just plain old dead letter ink on paper and nothing more.

Love and……

Kirk Out !



What God Hates


God said:

“I can’t stand your religious meetings. I’m fed up with your conferences and conventions. I want nothing to do with your religion projects, your pretentious slogans and goals. I’m sick of your fund-raising schemes, your public relations and image making. I have had all I can take of your noisy ego-music. When was the last time you sang to me?  Do you know what I want? I want justice—oceans of it. I want fairness—rivers of it. That’s what I want. That’s all I want.”
– Amos 5: 21-24 (MSG)

Further proof that true Worship is NOT a prayer, 3 songs, an offering and a sermon.  It is rather a life laid down!  The focus should be on Jesus and not us.  Too many “church” services are about how good the SHOW is. HE doesn’t care about fancy big sound and lights.  Looking right and sounding right are not the same as being RIGHT with Christ.  Slick production pales in comparison to humble and contrite hearts.

I find it very odd that most places of “worship” are decorated with pretty lights and fancy flowers throughout the year.  Jesus had a pretty common and simple birth without much fanfare.  He was born where they kept filthy animals after all.  He also lived His life in very humble circumstances as a common man. Plus what Jesus did for us in the end was not pretty!  It was a bloodbath!  His flesh was literally torn from His body and He was beaten beyond recognition!  I am exceedingly grateful for what Jesus accomplished at the cross and I fully accept His glorious resurrection, but I will not whitewash the events and commemorate them in some sort of palatable fancy show filled with pretense, our Sunday best clothes and overflowing collection plates.

How we treat people, especially those who are in desperate need for justice and fairness is extremely important.  We should all be instruments of His love, mercy, grace, peace and justice at all times.  When we are all caught up in ourselves this rarely happens.  Some introspection is healthy, but too much is more than a problem.  We are to look out not only for our own interests, but also for the interests of others.  Wake up and look around, there are many people in need of His love, peace and justice within your reach.  What about the widow and the orphan?  What about your neighbors?  You don’t have to look far to find those who need HIS touch.

Most people are far too busy with GOING to “church” and “church” sponsored events.  Too busy in fact to actually BE the Church for those who need Him most.  To quote the late great Keith Green, “Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald’s makes you a hamburger.”  How can we spend hours every week being entertained at the “church” building or at “church” events…while people all around us are literally dying, hurting and suffering?  It is time to break free from dead religion and “the Show” so that we can reach out and do actual ministry for the poor, poor in spirit and those with great need.

It does not matter how you meet or gather.  I have seen house churches just as self absorbed as those at a “church” building.  We all have to ask ourselves…What really is the motivation of my heart?  Is it to serve or to be served and entertained?  Jesus came to serve and we should follow His example daily.  I am tired of all the activities and shows that the “church” provides.  I want to be more like Jesus and less like me.  Today I will seek to meet the needs of others over and above myself.  I will still gather in simplicity with those who Love Him, but our gatherings will be about His will and not ours. Time to break free of “The Show”!

“I hate, I despise your religious feasts; I cannot stand your assemblies.”  Amos 5: 21 (NIV)

Love and…….

Kirk Out !





Are We Really Listening To The Spirit Of Christ?


“I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.  As for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you.  But as His anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit- just as it has taught you, remain in Him.”  1 John 2: 26-27

David P. who claims to be a Pastor/elder in his current “church” made the following comment recently in some online communication about me:

“If you don’t have a Pastor, and you refuse to have one, then you are in rebellion and disobedience to Jesus and the Holy Scriptures.”

It seems to me that David’s comment flies directly against the passage I just quoted.  David says you must have a Pastor/teacher or you are going directly against Jesus.  Just where are those words in red?  Seriously, Jesus said “You must be born again.”, but He did NOT say “You must have a Pastor.” That is exactly the type of teaching that John says will lead us astray.  We are not to be dependent on any man or woman.  For anyone to say we NEED a human leader or shepherd other than Jesus is, I dare say anti-christ?  No, I am not calling David an anti-christ, but the comment he made most certainly is.

The real truth is that we do not need anyone to teach us.  Because in the Spirit we have His anointing to teach us about ALL THINGS and the FULL COUNSEL OF GOD.  His anointing is real, not fake and it continually teaches us to remain in Him.  Again, in Him we lack nothing!

Now there are a multitude of ways that His anointing teaches us including…The voice of Christ or direct revelation from the Spirit, revelation from the bible, nature and via the anointed words of other Christ followers. The key is to look and listen for His anointing in all things and all people.  The Spirit will guide us into all truth in this manner.  When I listen to people I am always listening for His voice, His anointing, and His truth in what they are sharing.  When I am open and attentive to Him in any circumstance, He is able to reach and teach me what I need to know in that exact moment.  It is crucial that we be surrendered and in the flow of the Holy Spirit at all times.  When I am totally yielded to HIM like that I am able to discern the difference between His anointed words and all other types of words.

I guess what I am saying here today is that God is still speaking.  In fact He never stopped.  Even though David and others claim the Scriptures are the complete and “final revelation” from God.  I say that God is NOT confined to speaking only through scripture.  Jesus via His anointing and Spirit teaches us everything we need to know concerning the past, present and future.  And He does not just speak through the bible and a select few humans such as Pastors and elders.  His voice can still be heard in almost everyone and every situation…including unbelievers and Balaam’s ass.  The key is are we really listening?  His sheep hear His voice and obey.  Jesus is the One and Only true Shepherd.  Please listen for His voice and follow only Him and no other today.

Love and……

Kirk Out !





Relationship, Not Religion


Jesus said:

“My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.  Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.  You are my friends if you do what I command.  I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business.  Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.  You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit-fruit that will last.  Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.  This is my command: Love each other.”  John 15: 12-17

This is oh so very simple.  Jesus desires that we love Him and one another.  We were created to be in an agape and phileo love relationship with the Lord and each other.  Jesus wants to be friends with us.  We are called to be in a relationship with Him that goes deeper and is much more personal than He just being Master and us being His servants.  Christ’s example indicates that being friends is perhaps our highest calling in this life.  This relates to my last blog about making disciples.  The best and most effective way of making disciples is via friendship.  That is exactly how Jesus treated and taught His disciples.

Friend to friend is how we reach others for the Kingdom, not teacher to student, Pastor to “layperson” or Clergy to “laity”.  Knowing these things should lead us to view everything through the lens of relationship, instead of the lens of religion, tradition or doctrine.  When we read and try to understand the bible we should do so in a relational manner.  The Spirit will lead us into all truth and I say that all truth is relational truth.  When we approach the bible in this manner we will see it as living, alive and real; instead of a book of rules, dead letter and regulations.  If you look for relationship, love, grace and freedom you will find it there.  However, if you take a non-relational approach you will just find dead religion instead of Christ.  Taking a purely academic approach will fail you also.  To understand the text you will have to use your heart more than your head.  They say most people miss God by only 18 inches…the distance between your brain and your heart.

Jesus is the King of Kings and He commands that we be in a loving relationship with Him and one another.  To make a friend you have to be a friend.  It involves laying your heart and everything else on the line.  To know Jesus is to Love Him and to love Him you must surrender everything, including your personal comfort zones.  In the process of making friends you end up making disciples.  The challenge is to love Jesus and those He places in your life each and every single day.

Love and…..

Kirk Out !