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Will You Please Listen?

January 3, 2018

Greetings,

You know what I hate?  I hate the first two questions people always ask you when they find out that you are a believer of some sort.  The first question is always, “Where do you go to Church?”, and the second question is always “Who is your Pastor/Leader?”  I hate the questions even though I have pretty good answers.  My answer to question one is “I don’t go to Church because it is impossible to go to what you are.  Because the Church is the people not the building or location.   You might go to the place the church gathers, but you cannot go to Church.   Read my T-shirt?  Don’t Go To Church….BE The Church!”  The answer to the second question is even easier…”I follow Jesus, because Jesus is the only true Leader in the Church!”  Most people agree with me when I spell it out that way, and the few that don’t get it just walk away.

I was in the grocery store last year and a lady who worked with me at our local Pregnancy Helpline asked me if our home fellowship was doing “The 50 day Spiritual Adventure?”  I said “No, we are all about the 365 days a year adventure”  We laughed, but I think I made my point, and yes she still talks with me and remains a friend.

I say all that to ask this one very important question…… Does a true follower of Jesus really NEED a Pastor/Teacher/Leader?  Seriously, think about that before you answer too quickly?  Because 1 John 2: 27 says this:

“As for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you.  But as His anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit – just as it has taught you, remain in Him.”

In context this passage is warning about antichrists and false teaching, but verse 27 is rock solid clear to me:  Jesus gave us His anointing and His anointing teaches us all things without the need of a human teacher.  The traditional church manages to tap dance all around this message, but there it is clear as day.  But doesn’t the Bible talk about apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastor/teachers?  Sure it does in a few places, but these giftings never replace His anointing and direct revelation.  If anything they are meant for confirmation of His anointing.  The real antichrist and false teaching is that you NEED these people OVER you and that you should trust them over and above His anointing.

“So Captain are you telling me that I can hear directly from God for myself?”  The answer is YES, absolutely!  So you better start listening to Him instead of traditional church doctrine and its teachers.  It may take awhile to develop a listening ear and heart, but I guarantee that His anointing is real.  You want to learn about Jesus?  Then just start hanging around other Christ followers who have and use His anointing.  Share what you think you are hearing from Jesus and your peers can help you determine what is of Him and what is not.  Do not be afraid of being wrong because that is how we best learn.  “My sheep hear My voice and obey.” said Jesus.  So listen, share and then listen and share some more!

Love and…..

Kirk Out !

p.s.  I am not saying that we don’t need each other in the Body of Christ.  What I am saying is that everyone in the Body is special and anointed and not just a select few.  I have been taught much by His anointing via and through other saints, both living and long dead.  I even read the occasional book other than the bible, but when I turn to others I am still really listening for Him, His voice, His message and His anointing in and through them.

 

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13 Comments
  1. Thanks, as always, dear Chris. As I read this encouragement today I was reminded of how much I grew spiritually in a Christian gathering (yes, a church made up of people endeavouring to walk in the light of Jesus) in which we were taught to listen to the promptings of the Holy Spirit. I don’t think there are a lot of gatherings where that is taught and it is a major reason why so many still cling to their denominational places as they do not know how to listen for themselves, so it is too scarey then to step out of that “safe” place where others purportedly lead and guide one. We were encouraged in that gathering to be the church.

    • Thanks for sharing Jem. Fear does hold the average church goer and keeps them from stepping out in faith to listen for HIS Voice. HOwever, perfect live casts out all fear.

  2. "BK" permalink

    Again, amen to your PS. My thought as I read the question is “YES! We DO need them….BUT….”. The ‘but’ was but not “A” pastor or “A” teacher, etc. but those manifestations of Spirit as He flows in them through every member whenever and in whoever He pleases. But then you covered that in your PS 🙂 Jem is right when he identifies fear…..so so true. People are afraid to listen to the Spirit because ‘they could be led WRONG by hearing their own thoughts.” So sad. The truth is I can get it ‘wrong’ when I read the Bible in my own interpretation. And as we learn to listen to His voice it becomes quite distinct from our ‘thoughts’ just rolling through our head! Jem, I too was ‘raised up’ in a building that encouraged hearing the Spirit, moving in the manifestations, flowing in the movement of Life. It actually made it not so hard for Him to lead me ‘out’ because they taught me to listen. For that I am thankful. Amen to the reality of the Spirit’s leading, Christopher. Thank you, “BK”

  3. Years ago I was in a home “church” not fellowship… church. A married couple came to me in confidence over a situation that was totally a heart breaker for me. They asked if I would stand by in support and help them thru the situation. JESUS immediately told me to STAND. So I did.. God used me by HIS Spirit to shepherd them, plant seeds of righteousness and water them and teach them HIS ways.. I had to have faith and trust HIM that HIS will would be done, even when it looked like I might have to stand with them in a situation that made me physically ill. But HE said STAND and I did.
    When the “pastor” and his wife found out by their testimony of the choice they almost made yet had chosen HIS way, AND that I knew and had stood by them the whole journey.. I was in deep waters.. and not the Spiritual ones.. How dare I not go to him and let him know what was happening etc…
    He was the pastor, right?
    NOPE.. I proceeded to tell them that if HE asked me the same again, then I would again, stand and not say a thing because if HE had have wanted them to know, HE could and would tell them.
    On my way home in my conversation with HIM, this is what HE said to me.
    “If I live within you, then if I have need of a shepherd, would I not rise up within and bring forth that which I have need of?” If I have need of a teacher, would I not rise up with in and bring forth that which I have need of?”
    If we are led by HIS Spirit, then no matter what HE needs done at the moment, He will do.. we do not need labels.. God Forbid.. With Labels.. pastor, apostle etc.. it deceives one to believe that they are greater, above.. all others.. once one has that taste of power, it is very hard to let go of..
    Yes, some of us might have more talent in the ways of a teacher, shepherd etc.. but if HE lives within and we are led by HIS Spirit.. then all the facets of who HE is, is within for HIS pleasure.

    • Outstanding conclusion Talena! WE SERVE at HIS pleasure and NEVER our own. HE knows our needs individually and corporately and will meet those needs by Himself stirring within us or other members of the Body the exact gifting that is needed at any given time.

  4. At this point in my life, the only way I know for certain that God is speaking to me, or His Holy Spirit is moving me is when I am reading His Word. I don’t see how hanging out with a peer group and taking all their varied advice is any different than listening to a prepared sermon on scripture. Except for one thing: I can walk away from the preacher: it’s much harder to walk away from friends. All have fallen short of the Glory of God, I know this. I just don’t think it’s up to us to claim that God has “spoken” to us when no one has heard His voice!
    (Looking forward to hearing your answer to that.)

    • nobody, we are definitley coming at this from very different experiences and angles. I have seen HIM and been hearing HIS Voice since I was 4 years old and I hear HIM often through others. I hear HIM in the scriptures too. Peer groups have the advantage over prepared sermons because “Wisdom comes from a multitude of counselors.” You say “no one has heard His voice” Such a sad statement! Because Christ’s sheep “hear His voice and obey.” Thanks for sharing your portion nobody, even though we disagree.

      • I’m sorry I was not more clear. When I wrote “no one has heard God’s voice” I was referring to:

        John 5:37 New King James Version (NKJV)

        37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.

        Yet I misled you by being lazy and not looking it up. I am sorry about that.

        I have had a relationship with God since I was 7 years old. I understand what you mean about hearing Him. It’s not an audible voice, but it is clear.

        I am very interested in what you wrote about “Wisdom comes from a multitude of counselors.” I’ll see if I can find the scriptural reference so we can all look at it (meaning not just you and I, but your other readers as well):

        Proverbs 11:14 New King James Version (NKJV)

        14 Where there is no counsel, the people fall;
        But in the multitude of counselors there is safety.

        Proverbs 15:22 New King James Version (NKJV)

        22 Without counsel, plans go awry,
        But in the multitude of counselors they are established.

        So you are scriptural with that. It looks like it is addressing groups of people?

        Also, I loved your quote of “My sheep hear My voice and obey” or as it is in the NKJV:

        John 10:27 New King James Version (NKJV)

        27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

        I’m not certain we disagree as much as I was lazy in explaining what I meant.

      • Thank you for that clarification brother!

  5. You’re most welcome! And I forgot to add that your hatred of those first two questions “Where do you go to church?” and “who is your pastor/leader?” used to bother me until I became housebound. I have a simple answer now: do you know churches and pastors that make house-calls?

    • Great answer sister

      • See? Even being housebound is not beyond the reach of our God to use for His glory! Feel free to use those words of mine in part or in whole, for any good work of God, any time it would be helpful.

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