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Pimping Out A Gift From God?

August 8, 2017


“Now I commit you to God and to the word of His grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.  I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing.  You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions.  In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus Himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”             Acts 20: 32-35

Seriously, I do not understand at all how anyone can read these words of Paul and still support a “church” system in which ministers get paid for sharing their gifts with the rest of the Body of Christ.  Clearly Paul’s example was to work a regular secular job in order to provide for one’s needs and living expenses.  In the New Testament there is no such thing as a professional Minister.  The Levitical Priesthood has been done away with by Jesus and now every single follower of Christ is a priest before both God and “men”.

Ministry was never meant to be a full time occupation.  The Lord wants us all to work hard in the communities we live in and serve, so that we can develop relationships with others and be good examples to all who view our lives.  In the true Body of Christ there is no Clergy/Laity system or division and everyone is a minister, not just a select few.

A true follower of Jesus is a servant to all and is not a seeker of position or power over others in the church.  Jesus is the only true Head of His Body and the only Leader we should be following in this life and in the church.  Every other member of His Body serves and functions under His Headship in order that we may grow and build up the Body in love, as EACH PART does its work.

Paul lived and worked among the Ephesians for three years, sharing the gospel free of charge and taking no money or support from the church whatsoever.  He held a full time job during this time and was never a burden to those he served.  In fact taking money for loving others has a name…it is called prostitution.   If Paul, who was an apostle, did things that simple way then why can’t the modern “church” do the same?  If we took the money that we pay Clergy and gave it all to the poor and needy, boy what a difference the church could make in numerous lives.  Add that to the money spent on “church” buildings and I bet we could easily feed the world.  I know some are now saying to themselves, “What no Clergy, no buildings…what else does this crazy guy want to do away with?”  My short answer would be sermons, traditions and programs!  You want a strong church?  Go with simple every member ministry and totally free and open Spirit led gatherings….and I am just getting started!  Am I stark raving mad or just totally in love with Jesus and His bride?

Love and …..

Kirk Out !




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  1. Strong words! Probably the strongest I’ve yet read of your blogs. I know of a church where the leaders hold secular jobs and do exactly that – pour the offerings into helping others. But they still function in all respects like a church including regular Sunday sermons and set service times. Unfortunately they anti-gay so rules them out in my book.

    • Jem, strong but true…….. the babylon system is holding back the Body of CHrist big time

  2. Sue permalink

    Every member ministry….totally free spirit led…… You are totally in love with Jesus, and He is totally in love with his bride, the ekklesia, who he wants to show his love to the world. We can do it if we can display it because of natural use in the body! More would see him and want this beautiful template of ekklesia.

    • Thank you for those affirming words Sue. THey are much appreciated. A freind of more than 30 years just told me my blog was spreading disunity and discord. SIGH……….

  3. Judy Baker permalink

    We need to follow Jesus all the way …. he said not to carry a purse ..or charge.. you give free as he gave free. Early church members all worked a job and did not collect money for their pay. Help was given freely to the poor and widows. Far cry from today’s massive tv churches…
    The people are the church .
    Who really are God’s disciples taking care of their Fathers business and following Jesus ?

    • Thank you for sharing that grand exhortation Judy. We all need to ask ourselves the question…what or who am I really following? Is it Jesus, The Pastor, the Church, ourselves or the bible. I choose Jesus!

  4. Dan permalink

    You are not only talking about this but doing it. You’re not lecturing, you’re displaying. Church people have to be able to see and experience the real thing, Ekklesia, then they will want it enough to ditch the fake. Please pray for us who haven’t found Ekklesia yet in our regions. We desperately want it. As to your friend’s suggestion that you are sowing division, you are not. You are sharing the truth in love not to divide but to unite us all under the headship of Christ. The most divisive thing is to have levels of strata of hierarchy. To have the paid and the payers. The called and the not called. The inner circle and the rabble. The monopolizer and the captive listener. The dividing silo of church membership, etc, etc. You are so on the right track. You are not divisive. Thankful for you and not just what you say but for all you’re doing as well…and for who you are.

    • Thank you Dan for that affirmation and encouragement. I needed to hear that today. Much appreciated my brother.

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