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Seeing Through Spiritual Eyes

March 29, 2017

Greetings,

“So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view.  Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.  Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old is gone, the new has come!  All this is from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to Himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them.  And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation.”  2 Corinthians 5: 16-19

To me this is pretty clear, we simply should know no one after the flesh or from a worldly point of view.  We need to see everyone through the eyes of The Spirit and treat them as Jesus would.  We must stop judging by mere appearance and make a righteous, Spiritual, judgment.  (John 7: 24)

We should treat everyone with kindness, love and respect.  People are not to be treated like pawns in some sort of game. The way of the world is to look at people like they are in some sort of organizational flow chart; like they are just cattle with spaces to fill in order to make the chart work and make sense.

The traditional “church” does this all the time and the flow chart they fill is top down and hierarchical in nature.  Jesus NEVER elevated one person OVER another and neither should we. The world uses titles and positions that make certain people more valuable than others within an organization.  It should NOT BE THIS WAY IN CHRIST’S CHURCH!  Titles like Pastor are used to divide the Body according to gifting and roles.  Wherever some people are regarded as more special than others is a very bad place to be.  Christ lived and died for us all and He is the only one we should ever esteem as being over the Church. There is only one Leader, The Christ, and all the rest of us are mere equal sibling peers.  The true Church is a living organism and NOT a man led organization.

Finally, if we are truly going to relate to people in a Spiritual, not worldly, manner, we must not count their sins against them. This means we approach everyone as if they had a clean slate in this life, not judging them negatively beforehand.  When we reach out in Christ everyone is to be accepted equally as a person who Jesus loves and desires to set free.  None of their sins or behaviors should inhibit us from loving and accepting them as Jesus does.  They don’t need to change anything before they receive Jesus.  The change that needs to happen in their lives occurs after they become born again.  That is the work of The Holy Spirit and no “man”. Telling people they need to change behaviors before they accept Christ is like telling someone they need to get clean before they take a bath.  It is foolish and a way of the flesh and not The Spirit. I say love and accept everyone now and allow Jesus to transform them exactly how and when He sees fit.

Love and ….

Kirk Out !

 

 

 

 

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20 Comments
  1. Mercy fulgencio permalink

    Position is one’s security now in modern Christendom. It s a symbol of authority …
    And so it becomes in the name of pastor so and so … sad to note,,, 😦

  2. stevehigh64772 permalink

    Christopher, I totally agree that many Christian leaders have forsaken the truth and build kingdoms for themselves. This is a huge problem in the church. However in solving the problem I see a different solution. The 5-fold ministry designations – apostle, prophet, evangelistic, pastor teacher, and others such as deacon, elder, Bishop, overseer are biblical terms. They describe function not position. That is the problem, not in terms, but in application. A mechanic is a function not a position. He isn’t more important than a barber, but I would rather have a mechanic work on my car and a barber cut my hair then some guy off the street. I don’t call my mechanic by his title (hey mechanic Mike, can you work my car today?) but rather I refer to him by his function…this is Mike, he’s a mechanic. Rather than chuck the established terms I vote we use humility and get it right. Honesty I’ve seem a lot of people who had as much pride and arrogance about the fact they didn’t call themselves anything (me included a few years back). It is interesting that in acts 20 Paul calls for the elders (presbyters) of the church at Ephesus – most likely Timothy was among this group of men – and says they are overseers (bishops) and tells then to feed (pastor) the flock of God. Same group of guys, no hierarchy or position intended…just function. Certainly not everyone is gifted as a pastor, or teacher (Lord help us, I’ve seem too many people who thought they preach or teach won didn’t have a clue), but one function in the body is not mire important than another, they are all need gifts in their proper places (Just my two cents worth.)

    • Steve, thank you for adding your 2 cents to the conversation. NO matter what you call them titles get in the way of relationships in the Body of Christ. Jesus said not to use titles such as teacher etc because we are ALL brothers. I take HIS words about this seriously.

  3. Judy Baker permalink

    Very encouraging..JESUS makes it simple . Love one another . You are all brothers . When he washed the feet of the disciples, it was very humbling.. He showed them what to do. His example still teaches us today . No one is above another. The Elders have a responsibility to take care of the flock ( spirituality)
    Willingly and not under compulsion..they receive no pay. They must have their own family in good standing first. It all makes since to me.

  4. As grace believers, the flesh is in us but we have been placed in Christ. Yes, we can choose to walk in the flesh, act-out in the flesh, but still, we are “seated with Christ in the heavenly places.” Thus we no longer see each other “in the flesh,” because, “we are in Christ” (I Cor. 1:30). And this holds true for our Lord as well. Paul’s Christ is glorified, ascended, and seated at the right hand of the throne of God. Many Christians know Christ of the gospels but have little knowledge of Him in His glory because their “eyes are blinded of the gospel (good news) of the glory of Christ.” (2 Cor. 4:4-6).

    • We as the Body of Christ are called to cause blind eyes to see. That is a extremely important call to reach both believers and non-believers with HIS Truth in Love. Time to set the captives free my friends. Thanks for sharing Clark.

  5. Sue heumann permalink

    People are surprised when they don’t see judgment coming at them ….. When their sins are revealed to us it shouldn’t surprise us at all! We all sin differently, thats all. Coming before them w our Jesus glasses on we see them as needy weak beings, just as you and I. Nobody treats them better than someone who shows love and respect. No pastor, leader, whatever…..especially since they are titles that man made up! We are all overseers of the flock and should love everyone as Jesus did and does.

  6. "BK" permalink

    “We are all overseers of the flock and should love everyone as Jesus did and does.” Wow, what a statement…..amen! Especially since Ephesians 4, the ‘five fold ministry chapter’ is very explicit that these functions listed in verse 11 aren’t titles or positions for a specific few ‘gifted ones’ but when read carefully from verse 1 it is clear it is a description for the ALL. As the Spirit flows through any given member at any given time It will flow in one of these manifestations. Not always the same way every time. Also in regards to ‘not regarding their sin’….we were having a discussion here just this morning when someone asked “How can anyone call themself a born again Christian and be a lesbian?” My answer was a surprise to them but I said, “The same way someone can smoke or swear or lie and still be a born again Christian. Jesus still has work to do in each one.” As Sue said, we all sin differently. Good post and comments, thanks! “BK”

    • Thanks for sharing BK. You know we fully agree on that Ephesians passage and I was so blessed those many years ago when we finally met face to face and discovered we were so like minded. Back then very few saw it that way, but more and more are coming around to view it as we do these days. Pioneering is a difficult task indeed, but perserverance bears much fruit in time.

      • "BK" permalink

        Indeed it’s been a privilege to walk this road….and to have walked it together, discovering more and more who also see and understand. Love you, “BK”

      • Yes BK, it is a privilege and a grand blessing to walk together. Love you!

  7. terryswigart permalink

    Chistopher I like your comment about cleaning up before taking a bath. Oswald Chambers in his book My Utmost for`His Highest says it this way, “If the Spirit of God detects anything in you that is wrong, He doesn’t ask you to make it right; He only asks you to accept the light of truth, and then He will make it right.”

    I’ve been reading the blogs and comments on your site for awhile. Generally, I am encouraged; tho on occasion I question (in my mind, not in the comments section) what is shared. But as someone once told me, “Eat the meat, and throw out the bones.”

    1 Corinthians 5 seems to go against the grain of some of what is shared in this particular blog and in some of the comments. But perhaps I’m not getting a clear picture of what people are really saying. So I will include 1 Coritnthians 5 in this comment for your consideration.

    1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. 6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. 12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

    In verse 11 Paul says there are some people we must not associate with. Do you agree with this?
    Also do you agree with Paul’s instruction in the last verse?

    Perhaps this blog isn’t the place to discuss such issues; just let me know. I’m on a spiritual journey and was just wondering if I should tarry for awhile or move on. Thanks

    • Terry, I agree with that passage. Those who are in Christ must be held to a higher standard than non-believers. However, we are to extend HIS Grace and Love to all, not as a cover up, but to draw them closer to HIS heart and repel them from sin. Thanks for sharing Terry.

  8. Hello Christopher,

    I’ve been thinking about this very passage for some time. At first, I sort of skimmed over the verse you are emphasizing-“treating no one according to the flesh.” It didn’t seem to fit. Then, the day before your post, it began to fall into place and your post nailed it for me. It is the center of the passage, not peripheral as I was thinking at first.

    I absolutely agree with your post, but would like to add that none of this is possible on our own. We cannot emulate Christ. We are not imitators of Him. It is He, living within us in His Spirit, that lives out this ideal.

    I especially agree with your final sentence, “I say love and accept everyone now and allow Jesus to transform them exactly how and when He sees fit.” You are a good example of how this works, both in your own life and in the lives of those you touch in your travels and daily life. Your stories of “accidental” encounters with people who are thirsting for Jesus is a prime example of how He works. One author said that he saw himself as a saboteur in the world-messing up the plans of the evil one, derailing his captives into freedom.

    As an aside, one step beyond your statement is that God will work this same miracle for all humankind in this or some future age. I don’t think that is what you meant, but if it isn’t true, then I surely wish it were.

    Thanks brother, as always,

    Win

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