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Beware The Way Of The Ferengi

July 16, 2014

Greetings,

Ferengi are aliens in the Star Trek universe that love money and all things mammon.  It seems their purpose in life is to make a profit in anything they do.  The way of the Ferengi is in direct opposition to the ways of Jesus.  “For the love of money (mammon/stuff) is a root of all kinds of evil.  And it is further written that,  Some people, eager for money have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.” (1 Timothy 6:10)  The desire for money is just not the way of the cross.

What does this all mean for people who make money off of the Gospel?  I think it puts them in a place that God never intended for them to be.  Paul put it this way in 2 Corinthians 2:17….”Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit.  On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like someone sent from God.”  Seems pretty darn clear that making any sort of profit because of ministry is not God’s way.  That certainly shows that most televangelists and prosperity preachers are in the wrong.  Paul went even further in 1 Corinthians 9:12 where he basically said that getting paid as an apostle would “hinder and discredit” the Gospel of Christ.

From my study and experience it looks to me that ministers should not get pay for their gifts and service to the church.  I know that sounds extreme, and perhaps it is, but it seems crystal clear to me.  When I study the New Testament I see Paul tentmaking and getting a job whenever it is possible for him to do so.  Sure there were, at times, love offerings and gifts to support him when he was in chains or unable to work.  However, he NEVER took a salary to do the work of The Lord.

What does this mean to modern day Pastors and ministers serving the church.  I am pretty sure that it means that they shouldn’t get paid… period!  In fact if they are getting paid this is what Jesus has to say about it, He says, “I am the good shepherd.  The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.  The hired hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep.  So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away.  Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it.  The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.” (John 10:11-13)  To me this implies that Jesus is the only good shepherd and that all the others are not so good.  It definitely says that being a hired hand and getting paid to work with the sheep is totally wrong.

I have known some good Pastors over the years, but I still feel that their position and pay goes against God’s best will.  Ministry is a calling and not a job or profession.  Churches should use their resources for missions and to take care of widows, orphans, and others in need. Paying someone to lead in the church puts pressure and expectations on that person to perform, but it also takes pressure off those being served in the congregation and makes then passive spectators.  The New Testament call is for every member ministry and paying Pastors and such tends to inhibit the Body of Christ in numerous very negative ways.

If the most excellent way is love, then we should all freely love and care for others.  When one gets paid to love, it is called prostitution.  Need I say more?

Love and …….

Kirk Out !

 

 

 

 

 
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11 Comments
  1. Ramma permalink

    This is dead on right Brother! It’s very plain in the scriptures about anyone being paid. Jesus never once passed an offering plate or ever told them to do it. The needs were always supplied. I am a bit mixed in how “missions” are operated. I find them very organized and controlled. Just thinking out loud. Blessings

    • Ramma,…. and the fact is that the only time Jesus ever passed an offering plate it was full of fish and bread to feed the masses. Thanks for sharing!

      • Ramma permalink

        Chris, and the offering plate was from Jesus to his followers to bless them. The “churches” have taken this way off course! Have a blessed day.

  2. Ken Blake permalink

    I have just read through 60 previous comments the last time this blog was posted. Those who feel your comment about “getting paid to love is called prostitution” was a bit over the top should probably prayerfully consider God’s rebuke to those shepherds in Ezekiel 34:1, in addition to those Scripture’s you have cited. My wife and I would say that the Holy Spirit has given us the same understandings that you are again sharing. Are not ALL believers considered to be part of the priesthood?

  3. Brother Kirk, once again, right on. Nobody should be taking or demanding a salary to do ministry. Freely we have received, freely we should give. Could you imagine what we could do if salary money were to be freed up to the actual needs of the body of Christ?

    • Ramma permalink

      You are so right. In Jesus teachings He said to do your “alms” , your giving to the Lord’s work, people, etc….to ALL BE DONE IN SECRET! Not to boast or speak to anyone of it and your Heavenly Father w8reward you openly. Quite a contrast to what the institutions teach. Blessings

  4. Dyesebel Barbecho permalink

    It is sad to think that people in their power do against the well of god…they didnt know that it is not ryt bcoz they are blind of what money can do to their lives…one day they will wake up begging the forgiveness of god…bcoz they need to pay what they have done wrong to people…life is full of surprises and we dont know what will happened nxt….start doing good to others without an exchange..thats all thank you…

  5. Matthew 16:26
    What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?
    Luke 9:25
    What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit their very self?

    I don’t know the purpose behind each person, yet I know God does, no matter what, and will reward the person(s) or not, Jesus was very clear on hypocrisy. So each of us give if we decide to, with a cheerful heart and that is not always money. And give what one has, and not what you haven’t. Discernment goes two ways:
    Yes the Church set up by mankind is exactly that set up by mankind, and yes there are many flaws in it, and everywhere that is true in this world. It is just as like it was in the day of Christ when he came on the scene, not welcome in the Churches today as back then. And yes Christ spoke truth both ways, that these men of the cloth were hypocrites, and if we do the same, masquerade as being good, when only Father is good, and we do things for rewards, and we get them from here from people, check in self, are anyone of us the same? It is easy to point the finger at others, please do not forget when one points at others there are three pointing back at self. I glory in this,, Christ is being preached, whether sincerely or not is not the issue, even as Paul saw this:
    Romans 16:25-27
    I commit you to God, who is able to make you strong and steady in the Lord, just as the Gospel says, and just as I have told you. This is God’s plan of salvation for you Gentiles, kept secret from the beginning of time. But now as the prophets foretold and as God commands, this message is being preached everywhere, so that people all around the world will have faith in Christ and obey him. To God, who alone is wise, be the glory forever through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. Sincerely, Paul
    Philippians 1:15
    Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
    Philippians 1:16
    the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
    Philippians 1:17
    but the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
    Philippians 1:18
    What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

    Bottom line, some called here and over there, go where decide called between God and you, and does anyone not think that God will teach truth to be wise as a serpent, yet harmless as a dove?

    Did Paul respond to these places that preached in stress and strife for their own gain, self rewards, that Christ was clear about those sitting in Moses’s seat, getting the rewards might just be all the reward they will ever get.
    Now does that just include the clergy, the way Church is set up today? Or does this include all persons, each individually between God and that person. So I say we all need check our self’s out with God personally, and do what they say, but not as they do. They tell the truth, and yes maybe for their own gain. Yet truth is told and yet at judgment they and you might hear go away, you were never mine, you who work iniquity
    What is that take care of your own board in your own eye, before removing the speck in your neighbors eye. Work out your own salvation, stop this judgmental attitude on others and start on self, between God and you, be humbled so far down, you mi8ght have to look up to see down. God does just love us all, does God not? This flesh war fight is nothing but flesh fighting flesh in I am right you are wrong attitudes of self righteousness, and that my dear friends is just plain simply wrong IMOP. When is or has God stopped loving all? So pray for the clergy, pray for God to teach us, ad go in peace to all, being wise yes as the serpent, but please do not forget the harmless as a dove? Which so many have forgotten, latched onto wise as a serpent and are not harmless as a dove, and thus are not led by God, just as many of the clergy today, not all, but yes many.

    So do we glory in both as Paul saw and said. As James said to count it all glory. Peter saw this as well did he not?
    So please refrain from accusations to any others and all, and see the self, our own self and ask God to work out that, our own depravity and remain humble you think?
    For ALLL have sinned and ALLLLL have fallen short, and no not one is perfect and God through Son decided through Son he would make you perfect in God’s sight, by Son. while we all know we are not right?
    So who am I to flog, slap, degrade another? How can I talk bad about others when I have been bad all by myself?
    What brings one to repent, is it condemnation or love of God? Is God’s kindness meant to lead one to change his selfish passionate mind from passion to compassion.
    Compassion you all is it not:

    “I would like to explain the meaning of compassion which is often misunderstood:

    Genuine compassion is based not on our own projections and expectations, that is passion not compassion. Rather on rights of God’s love to all, irrespective of all persons, God loves all, and there in God’s view are no respect of person(s) So maybe just love all to death. Let another own conscience. convict them, please put down the stones, and walk away as the hypocrites in Christ’s day had to as he said he who is without sin cast the first stone. and they all walked away and Christ did not even convict her, yet said sin no more, and that to me would in me cause to definitely not want to, even for my own gain and start to trust God who loved me so much that he did not convict me, died for me, gave his life for ALL, not a few. Then rose to give new life for all that do choose to believe, that are willing to be dead to self, come alive to God in God’s timing you think? That is all you all, we all have been harmed one way or the other, and we all want revenge, yet God is Merciful. So how can I not be to all as God is to me? Love from God to all

    • "BK" permalink

      Homeward, sometimes the most merciful and loving thing one can do is lance a boil or remove a cancer. Both very painful, but especially the latter can be life saving. To declare the evil of the Nicolaitan system of ‘clergy over laity’ is not to discredit the man or woman who is sincerely in that position of hierarchy due to 2,000 years of Christian tradition that says that’s how to do it; it is to show clearly the death contained within the harlot’s deadly cup that looks so good on the outside but is so full of abomination. I was a ‘non-salaried’ pastor for a long time, and a ‘worship leader’ before that; and I did those things at HIS direction. I ‘spake as a child’. And some came along telling me the kinds of things Chris says here and other than a seed that was planted (unbeknowns to me) I pretty much disregarded what they said, considering them not quite as spiritually in tune as I; spiritually wounded or some other such thing. When the Lord smacked me between the eyes with the reality of it all, then I moved on, following the Lamb in a way I had never heard of (I didn’t get it from reading books or blogs). So, while I sure do agree with your adamant insistence that God loves everyone and so should we, I continue to feel you miss the fact that it is THE SYSTEM they are trapped in that is spoken of here. And yes, I also agree it can be much closer than ‘out there’ as He continues to set us free from our own flesh and misconceptions. Love, “BK”

      • I just see bashing the system as just like many in the system bash gays and neither is right is it?

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