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I Follow A Person, Not A Book

October 15, 2013

Greetings,

“Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.  Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.  And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”  Matthew 28: 18-20

Jesus said, “You are witnesses of these things.  I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”  Luke 24: 48-49

Recently while reading my bible ( Yes I do this often regardless of anything Jim W. or others might think) and these two passages really spoke to me.  Please notice that ALL AUTHORITY has been given to Jesus.  If this is true, which it is, the bible has absolutely NO authority of its own.  This is funny (funny SAD, not funny ha ha) because most Christians and “churches” out there say that the bible is their Sole Authority in life.  Most look to the book to find their answers, when they really should be looking directly to Jesus for any and all guidance and answers.  To look to the book first and foremost denies Jesus of His rightful place as our sole Authority, Guide and Lord.

Now having said that I will also acknowledge that Jesus and His Spirit will often times lead us to the bible for guidance and answers.  But the book itself without the illumination of Jesus and the Holy Spirit has absolutely no value or authority in anyone’s life.  If you want to speak with authority speak only with the words that Jesus gives you at any given moment in life. Quoting scriptures at people devoid of Christ and Spirit does no one any good at any moment.

Jesus is the SOLE AUTHORITY in the life of a Christ follower and He uses the Holy Spirit to empower us to live a life worthy of the calling we have received.  Jesus via the Spirit can grant us all the power, authority and influence we need to live life to its fullest while serving Him and others along the way.  The true great treasure is found within us, not between the pages of some Holy book.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the bible and HE leads me to read it almost every day.  But I do so understanding that true Life and Light come only from Him and no other source.  We are truly not to go anywhere or do anything unless we do so with the Spirit’s leading and empowerment.  We should do absolutely nothing in our own strength, power or leading.  Jesus is The Word of God and we should seek to serve and follow only Him.  I follow a Person, not a book.  However, He may speak to me in any manner He desires…including from the well worn pages.

Love and……

Kirk Out !

 

 

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23 Comments
  1. Right on brother.

  2. "BK" permalink

    I agree with the principal of what you are writing but I will put one little pebble on the other side of the table :). I don’t think the Bible has no value, even when read by someone with no anointing or insight. I agree that quoting scriptues ‘at’ someone is useless (and can be deadly) but I also know many a person who has found value within its pages. Authority? Indeed, it belongs to Him and Him alone…..and as you said, whatever or whoever He chooses to anoint and use. Value? Hmmmmm, I find much more value in the Bible as a book than many a text out there. Just my big agreement and little pebble, “BK”

  3. BK, I welcome your pebble on the table.

  4. Hi BK in another place! I suggest that, when the Bible actually conveys value to a person, it is because God is actively conveying it. No?

    • "BK" permalink

      I guess when anyone receives anything ‘of value’, one can credit the Lord with it, you’d get no dispute from me on that. So you would say “If you get something of value, then it is God speaking, but if you don’t then it wasn’t Him?”. I just believe there are valuable principals and guidance contained in the Bible that are of value to the natural man, a Buddhist, an atheist, etc. I’m on the same page with Chris (and you) regarding the mis-adoration and authority ascribed to the Bible as a ‘holy book’. “BK”

  5. 2trakmind permalink

    One of the last straws that led to me finally leaving the institution was when I raised this as a topic for discussion in the Sunday school class I led. I began to dig into issues like this with the group to challenge our thinking, and encourage us to begin loosening our grip on artificial things that stood in the way of what we were truly intended for; Christ Himself. It was clear people weren’t ready for discussion like that, and within a couple of weeks, I was no longer the facilitator of the group. I was gone one Sunday, and when I returned, I found that I had been replaced with a “teacher” who would just teach, and not encourage discussion.

    At that time, the Spirit had just recently opened my eyes to so much, and in my excitement, I just pushed too hard. It was cool, though, because there were two guys on the same journey with me that supported me, and we had some really rich conversations together after that, and continue to encourage each other to keep on digging.

  6. BK, the two people I knew in life who knew the most about the Bible, both professors at a university (yes, even understood the central message), got nothing from it. That says to me – it’s a dead letter without the breath of the Spirit.

    • "BK" permalink

      I’m not in disagreement with you on that. I actually thought about it a few times over the course of the evening last night. The only way I can say what I am trying to say is, even in dead letter the Bible contains wonderful advise and guidance in living life. Now, when we talk about ‘LIVING word’ then, indeed, the anointing comes into play.

  7. 2trakmind permalink

    Reblogged this on Grace Vagabond and commented:
    We have all been taught to read into the Bible, things the Bible doesn’t say. “The Word of God;” or “Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth” are labels we have put on the Bible that are not supported by scripture. I believe labels like this not only undervalue what the Bible truly is, but demeans the God the book tells us about. The Bible is a book that screams “LOOK AT JESUS!”, but our churches scream, “LOOK AT THE BOOK!” This is no less than tragic. By elevating the Bible to the level of deity makes the Bible a stumbling block and an idol that hinders a true relationship with Christ.

    Early on in my journey, I attempted to write on this, but I am thankful for my brother (in Christ), Kirk, who did a much better job of addressing this subject than I did. May your heart and mind be open to the Spirit of Truth as you read Kirk’s words. Whether you agree, or disagree; may it be because you have heard the Spirit speak clearly to your heart.

  8. A favorite Nee quote: A clean object can block your vision as well as a dirty one.

  9. For what it’s worth, I’m with BK’s input here. Of course I see the Living Word (Jesus) as primary and central to my faith and life, and I’ve been through most of the stuff in the comments above, but do we always have to polarise things to the extreme?

    In any case, I think it’s dangerous to ‘generalise’ in our writings and debate and age has taught me that not everything in life is ‘black and white.’ A godly and Spirit-filled old man, who tasted heaven-sent revival in his time once said, ‘The hardest thing in the world is to keep balanced.’ It’s easy to fall off the horse one side or the other, and I’m not pointing fingers here but just stating a personal conviction.

  10. Erroll, I actually think Chris’ position here IS the balanced one…and BK’s is not far from it. Who do you think polarized?

    • A matter of opinion, Jim. I am allowed to see things differently, am I not?

      • Why, in today’s climate, do people feel like anyone is denying someone the right to have an opinion? But of course, Errol? But I did ask you an honest question – who do you think polarized?

      • Thanks Jim. It seems to have been a trend on this blog by both Chris on occasions and some commentators over the years I’ve been following. In my humble judgment.

        Grace and peace.

      • To me, the spectrum looks like this: on one end, the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy, where our “only reliable guide for faith and practice” is the Bible, nothing else is authoritative. On the other end of the spectrum: we don’t ever need the Bible. In the middle, brother Chris: God can and often does speak through the Bible to us, but is not bound to the Bible as his only way of speaking to us.

        For my part, I knew God 12 years before I ever held a Bible.

  11. Pretty much how I feel. I did have to walk away from the bible for several years, I suppose to give myself a fresh position with which to see Jesus.

    • "BK" permalink

      That is my experience too, Johnny. I put it down for about 2 years, never reading it unless I went to church (yes, that was during my ‘churched’ years). I just couldn’t read it with all the ditches I had dug on what I was TOLD it said and what it really said. When I did feel the peace to open it again it was in a fresh way, with the Spirit actually pointing things out. Like once I was driving along thinking on those verses in Romans 8 saying nothing can separate us from the love of God; not this or that….nor any other creature. As I had been taught, I added ‘except me’. The Spirit spoke, It DOESN’T say that. He had my attention. He said, “I laid My life down for you. Who do you think you are that you think you would be strong enough to separate yourself from Me????”. It was a beautiful moment…..just one of many.

  12. "BK" permalink

    Jim, your spectrum example is good. And I am with Chris. I will say, though, I have seen damage on both sides of the spectrum. Those who use the Bible as God, and those who throw it out because of things like this discussion being said to them, when the Spirit didn’t tell them too and they floundered. The ditch is on both sides…..the key, amen, is to listening to the Spirit.

  13. Very enlightening, Thank you, and so maybe we can see these verses told to his disciples as verses told to us in Spirit and truth maybe, if one believes this is what I see, to get me out of the way and trust, God in what to do and say, the same as Christ already did perfectly for us

    Matthew 10:16-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 and ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

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